# Distorted thiazole ring after docking

**URL:** <https://ask.bioexcel.eu/t/distorted-thiazole-ring-after-docking/3736>\
**Category:** HADDOCK\
**Created:** [May 27, 2022, 3:01am UTC](https://ask.bioexcel.eu/t/distorted-thiazole-ring-after-docking/3736 "2022-05-27T03:01:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![halniss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@halniss](https://ask.bioexcel.eu/u/halniss)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 3:01am UTC](https://ask.bioexcel.eu/t/distorted-thiazole-ring-after-docking/3736/1 "2022-05-27T03:01:07Z")

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Hi,  
I used Haddock web sever for the docking of a small molecule with DNA duplex. Everything went fine, but when I inspected the generated pdb files, I found one of the thiazole rings of the ligand completely distorted. The sulfur atom formed 4 bonds with all atoms in the ring, which looked as a sphere. Has anyone encountered such a problem?.  
Thank you in advance

Best regards  
Hasan

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2022, 10:34am UTC](https://ask.bioexcel.eu/t/distorted-thiazole-ring-after-docking/3736/2 "2022-05-31T10:34:31Z")

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This is usually simply a visualization issue - pymol might try to connect atoms that are within a certain distance. Try opening it in a different visualizer.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2022, 10:59am UTC](https://ask.bioexcel.eu/t/distorted-thiazole-ring-after-docking/3736/3 "2022-05-31T10:59:36Z")

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Thank you for your reply. I used the Discovery Studio , Pymol and Chimera visualizer, however, I faced the same problem. I attached the pdb file for your reference.

Regards,  
Hasan

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Hasan Yaser Hasan Al Niss​

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[cluster1\_1.pdb](https://ask.bioexcel.eu/uploads/short-url/nR4Ha4NLQxiHNoWtj6MKUfsRmRc.pdb) (59.8 KB)

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2022, 11:14am UTC](https://ask.bioexcel.eu/t/distorted-thiazole-ring-after-docking/3736/4 "2022-05-31T11:14:30Z")

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Looks like only one of the two groups is giving problems.

What was the starting model?

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2022, 11:39am UTC](https://ask.bioexcel.eu/t/distorted-thiazole-ring-after-docking/3736/5 "2022-05-31T11:39:16Z")

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The starting structure is 2MNE. I modified 2mne structure by replacing the pyridine ring of the ligand with a thiazole ring. The modified pdb file is attached.

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[MGB4\_ACTAGT.pdb](https://ask.bioexcel.eu/uploads/short-url/zsdrTWlo3YqKA8mXfdkeKKseL5j.pdb) (67.1 KB)

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 2:41pm UTC](https://ask.bioexcel.eu/t/distorted-thiazole-ring-after-docking/3736/6 "2022-07-15T14:41:56Z")

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There is indeed something fishy with the second thiazole ring of each ligand. Must come from the way PRODRG defines the topology - we do not have control on that.

However looking at your input model after deleting the connect statements, I do see before running HADDOCK already something strange in the second thiazole. The geometry must not be good from the start for that one. Any optimisation you can do before docking?  
 ![Screenshot 2022-07-15 at 16.40.26](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/bioexcel/original/1X/a625321786190269d80583fda5a48e6e62325d98.png)
